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		<title>By: SrA</title>
		<link>http://skippyslist.com/2007/07/24/another-retarded-debate/#comment-2974</link>
		<dc:creator>SrA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i worked at a jail and might i say... kill the rapists and pedifiles!!! and no, not the "my girlfriend is 15 and i'm seventeen" cases, the a##holes that destroy little kids and then want to tell you about it to enhance their pleasure from the memory.. for THOSE guys, lets bring back the fireing squad. bullets are cheep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i worked at a jail and might i say&#8230; kill the rapists and pedifiles!!! and no, not the &#8220;my girlfriend is 15 and i&#8217;m seventeen&#8221; cases, the a##holes that destroy little kids and then want to tell you about it to enhance their pleasure from the memory.. for THOSE guys, lets bring back the fireing squad. bullets are cheep</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
		<link>http://skippyslist.com/2007/07/24/another-retarded-debate/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, i'm torn.  The judicial system is a farce these days (any one who's had to stand before a judge should know this).  The criminals who are familiar with the system get off easily, quickly, and almost scott free.   Whilst the innocent get punished because they fight so hard to prove it, that the courts throw the book at them when they make their decision because they 'wasted their time.'
But thats the courts.

When it comes to the death penalty, they need to do a couple of things.
1.  Get rid  of the Suicide watch.  If they want to off themselves, it saves the country a lot of money.
2.  Offer them a way to give back to society, and make up for what they took away from it.  (E.G. A plan to be used for Medical Studies, and etc...).  They are to die, and if they truly believe in an after life, the potential to save millions of lives may be a wash for their bad deeds.

3.  Open a Colosseum!  Winners get another "last meal!"  Loser... well... is taken care of.
Ticket Sales, PPV, Toys, Product Advertisements, etc... would make boat loads of money.
We pay people to beat the hell outta people.  And etc...  Why not make money from something that is going to happen regardless?

lol, btw, in case i'm taken as being serious on #3.  I want to say its a joke.  Inspired by a stupid comment from an idiot on death row who brutally murdered a little girls family, then tortured and murdered her, and called 'lethal injection,' 'cruel and unusual' punishment.

And here are a few suggestions for the regular jails.
1.  Quit letting people out 'early' for 'good behavior.'  When you do that you negate the "Mandatory minimum sentences."  And you make a joke of going to jail.  You are SUPPOSED to be good whilst you are incarcerated!  If you are not, thats when they lengthen your stay.
If you are good, you still get stuck with what the judge gave ya.  (no matter how ignorant the judge is.  Thats why we have appeals.  supposedly...).

2.  Quit letting jails have perks and frills like T.V. and etc...  You are here to be punished.  Rehabilitated.  Reeducated.  and (if all goes well) Released.
Not come here, hang with ya old mates, learn some new tricks, make new contacts, get new addictions, be released, cause more crime, (and if ya still hopefully and idiot) get Reincarcerated.
Give them a Cot, Food, Water, Books, Counseling, and Solitude.  (Cause you really should be reflecting on your deeds as 'bad,' rather than braggin to ya mates how 'awesome' it was, and how you're going to do it differently 'next time').  Prison is supposed to be bad.  Not a High School Resort-Esq establishment.

But those are just my thoughts mate.
Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, i&#8217;m torn.  The judicial system is a farce these days (any one who&#8217;s had to stand before a judge should know this).  The criminals who are familiar with the system get off easily, quickly, and almost scott free.   Whilst the innocent get punished because they fight so hard to prove it, that the courts throw the book at them when they make their decision because they &#8216;wasted their time.&#8217;<br />
But thats the courts.</p>
<p>When it comes to the death penalty, they need to do a couple of things.<br />
1.  Get rid  of the Suicide watch.  If they want to off themselves, it saves the country a lot of money.<br />
2.  Offer them a way to give back to society, and make up for what they took away from it.  (E.G. A plan to be used for Medical Studies, and etc&#8230;).  They are to die, and if they truly believe in an after life, the potential to save millions of lives may be a wash for their bad deeds.</p>
<p>3.  Open a Colosseum!  Winners get another &#8220;last meal!&#8221;  Loser&#8230; well&#8230; is taken care of.<br />
Ticket Sales, PPV, Toys, Product Advertisements, etc&#8230; would make boat loads of money.<br />
We pay people to beat the hell outta people.  And etc&#8230;  Why not make money from something that is going to happen regardless?</p>
<p>lol, btw, in case i&#8217;m taken as being serious on #3.  I want to say its a joke.  Inspired by a stupid comment from an idiot on death row who brutally murdered a little girls family, then tortured and murdered her, and called &#8216;lethal injection,&#8217; &#8216;cruel and unusual&#8217; punishment.</p>
<p>And here are a few suggestions for the regular jails.<br />
1.  Quit letting people out &#8216;early&#8217; for &#8216;good behavior.&#8217;  When you do that you negate the &#8220;Mandatory minimum sentences.&#8221;  And you make a joke of going to jail.  You are SUPPOSED to be good whilst you are incarcerated!  If you are not, thats when they lengthen your stay.<br />
If you are good, you still get stuck with what the judge gave ya.  (no matter how ignorant the judge is.  Thats why we have appeals.  supposedly&#8230;).</p>
<p>2.  Quit letting jails have perks and frills like T.V. and etc&#8230;  You are here to be punished.  Rehabilitated.  Reeducated.  and (if all goes well) Released.<br />
Not come here, hang with ya old mates, learn some new tricks, make new contacts, get new addictions, be released, cause more crime, (and if ya still hopefully and idiot) get Reincarcerated.<br />
Give them a Cot, Food, Water, Books, Counseling, and Solitude.  (Cause you really should be reflecting on your deeds as &#8216;bad,&#8217; rather than braggin to ya mates how &#8216;awesome&#8217; it was, and how you&#8217;re going to do it differently &#8216;next time&#8217;).  Prison is supposed to be bad.  Not a High School Resort-Esq establishment.</p>
<p>But those are just my thoughts mate.<br />
Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: sickminds</title>
		<link>http://skippyslist.com/2007/07/24/another-retarded-debate/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>sickminds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe instead of argueing about whether or not to execute, we should argue about how.   this is right from George Carlin but I agree with the general thought process.  Instead of abolishing the death penalty or argueing about how humane it is we make it more painful.  Not televised as he suggested but well known how its done; hangings, decapitating; burning at the stake, punishments along those lines.   Do I want to go through any of it, no, but that is part of the idea.  But at the same time it will give some of these people some deep second thoughts about the crime they are about to commit.  I know someone will say that its not humane and I understand that fact, but how humane is it to kill a child, rape a woman, or kill a young childs parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe instead of argueing about whether or not to execute, we should argue about how.   this is right from George Carlin but I agree with the general thought process.  Instead of abolishing the death penalty or argueing about how humane it is we make it more painful.  Not televised as he suggested but well known how its done; hangings, decapitating; burning at the stake, punishments along those lines.   Do I want to go through any of it, no, but that is part of the idea.  But at the same time it will give some of these people some deep second thoughts about the crime they are about to commit.  I know someone will say that its not humane and I understand that fact, but how humane is it to kill a child, rape a woman, or kill a young childs parents.</p>
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		<title>By: MuhammadJihad</title>
		<link>http://skippyslist.com/2007/07/24/another-retarded-debate/#comment-1147</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, legalizing drugs is retarded. Or just dutch. Which is all the same to me. If the gub'ment wants to have a war on drugs then they need to grow some nuts and fuck shit up. "oh no they're processing cocaine what do we do!" What you do is (A.) Blow them the fuck up. (B.) shut the fuck up and deal with it because you took no decisive action. It's the same as Vietnam and Iraq. You need to go all out when you do something, don't pussy foot around and do it half-assed or everyone just suffers more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, legalizing drugs is retarded. Or just dutch. Which is all the same to me. If the gub&#8217;ment wants to have a war on drugs then they need to grow some nuts and fuck shit up. &#8220;oh no they&#8217;re processing cocaine what do we do!&#8221; What you do is (A.) Blow them the fuck up. (B.) shut the fuck up and deal with it because you took no decisive action. It&#8217;s the same as Vietnam and Iraq. You need to go all out when you do something, don&#8217;t pussy foot around and do it half-assed or everyone just suffers more.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://skippyslist.com/2007/07/24/another-retarded-debate/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skippy, well constructed.

 I don't want to ignite a religious argument, but I think that we also derive most of our attitudes about capital punishment from a day and age where most folks thought that some crimes were best paid for in the afterlife, however you want to construe it.   I suspect we would find that, in societies where there is a widespread adherence to a religious doctrine that preaches an afterlife (for example, medieval Europe) life comes pretty dirt cheap.  As a society begins to question the mythos permeating the religious culture, (usually after a scientific revolution like the enlightenment),  however, this material life becomes more valuable because folks begin to suspect that this is all there is, or that should matter right now.  By this logic, in that type of society, capital punishment *should* act as a greater overall deterrent, were it to be properly enforced.  The trouble is that the materialist ideology values life *so* highly, that it is rarely employed effectively.

It also undercuts the idea that a particular religious ideology gives human life greater value, which may not necessarily be the case in all cultures. (and I think if we all used our imaginations a little, you might be able to think of a few that fall on either side of this issue.)  

In the end, the abuses inherent in any system prevent the system from being implemented to it's greatest potential, and innocents die as a result. 

the founding fathers were smart fellas...better to let the guilty walk, than punish an innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skippy, well constructed.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t want to ignite a religious argument, but I think that we also derive most of our attitudes about capital punishment from a day and age where most folks thought that some crimes were best paid for in the afterlife, however you want to construe it.   I suspect we would find that, in societies where there is a widespread adherence to a religious doctrine that preaches an afterlife (for example, medieval Europe) life comes pretty dirt cheap.  As a society begins to question the mythos permeating the religious culture, (usually after a scientific revolution like the enlightenment),  however, this material life becomes more valuable because folks begin to suspect that this is all there is, or that should matter right now.  By this logic, in that type of society, capital punishment *should* act as a greater overall deterrent, were it to be properly enforced.  The trouble is that the materialist ideology values life *so* highly, that it is rarely employed effectively.</p>
<p>It also undercuts the idea that a particular religious ideology gives human life greater value, which may not necessarily be the case in all cultures. (and I think if we all used our imaginations a little, you might be able to think of a few that fall on either side of this issue.)  </p>
<p>In the end, the abuses inherent in any system prevent the system from being implemented to it&#8217;s greatest potential, and innocents die as a result. </p>
<p>the founding fathers were smart fellas&#8230;better to let the guilty walk, than punish an innocent.</p>
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